Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity

It’s not immediately obvious, but Robert Jensen and I have a lot in common. We both grew up as scrawny, physically inept boys with no aptitude for athletics. We were the kind of boys who were by default identified as “faggots” by our peers and, at least in my case, sometimes by teachers. On the playground and the streets, our status as “sensitive” boys made us easy targets for insults and physical abuse.

Most importantly, we both grew into men with deep dissatisfactions with what our society told us we were supposed to be, do, and think as men, and with an appreciation for feminism as a vital tool for both men and women to break free of old, potentially lethal gender scripts. And both of us can go on at length about what sucks about porn.

It’s this last point where the differences between Jensen and I become too obvious to ignore; yes, I can go on for hours and hours about what irredeemable psychic flotsam the great mass of porn is, and could probably fill several volumes thicker than Jensen’s on the mediocrity, body fascism, poor production values, labor abuses and sexism that dominate mainstream porn. These are all things that people of good conscience should find troubling about porn as it exists today. And yet, even as I calculate all the sins of pornography to the nth degree, and catalog the ways that I find it disappointing and trivial in taxonomies so detailed that the Library of Congress would have to invent a whole new indexing system, there’s something else: I think that in porn lies our salvation. For those of us who hate the ugly gordian knot of fear and loathing that our society ties our sexualities into, porn is essential. We need a genre of literature and art devoted to sexual arousal just as much as we need those that make us laugh, cry, or cringe in fear. And at the same time, we need to develop a critical language that we can use to think and speak about pornography. Without these things, we’ve resigned ourselves to remaining forever mute about our sexual desires.

Jensen, on the other hand, sees pornography as part of the “sexual exploitation industries” which include stripping, phone sex, and prostitution as well as the McPorn that comes out of the San Fernando Valley and the amateur sites that pepper the web. Jensen is a well-known activist and writer on other progressive causes, specifically racism and anti-war politics, and he sees his opposition to porn as the logical extension of that work (and vice versa). Men who are interested in social justice, he argues, can’t use pornography or patronize sex workers without betraying those principles at a fundamental level.

To Jensen, pornography is a mirror, a dark and violent one which few can bear to look into without flinching or deceiving themselves about what they see there: “Pornography forces women to face up to how men see them. And pornography forces men to face up to what we have become.” The first two-thirds of the book are spent looking deeply into the mirror of pornography and the ethical problems that Jensen finds in its creation and its use. It is a personal narrative as well as a political treatise. For any man writing on pornography, either pro- or anti-, it could hardly be any other way; one thing that most men have in common is that we started out our sexual lives with porn. However we feel about that, it’s almost an inevitability, and now with the internet, is even more so than when Jensen saw his first pornographic magazine in the early sixties, or when, in the seventies, I found my dad’s Playboy magazines, filled cover-to-cover with naked Farrah Fawcett wannabes. It is, in a way, a language that we all speak, no matter how we feel about it, and so it’s even more urgent that we be able to speak honestly and openly about it.

The fundamental point that Jensen is trying to make in his book is that this is not a language about sex, and in attacking pornography, he is not attacking sexuality per se. “In fact,” he says, “this culture struggles unsuccessfully with pornography because it is about men’s cruelty to women, and the pleasure men sometimes take in that cruelty.” And although men masturbate to pornography for a quick orgasm or two, even this transient pleasure isn’t what Jensen sees as its primary appeal for men. What it’s really giving to them is reassurance of their manhood: “Pornography knows men’s weakness. It speaks to that weakness, softly. Pornography winds up being about men’s domination of women and about the ugly ways that men will take pleasure. But for most men, it starts with the soft voice that speaks to our deepest fear: that we aren’t man enough.”

From the very first page, the urgency and passion of Jensen’s feelings about pornography and what it says about manhood can’t be in doubt: every line says, without compromise, that this is a social crisis that we ignore at our peril. To do so allows great injustices to be done: injustice to the women involved in the production of pornography, because of economic and sexual exploitation; injustice to the women who are partners or family of men who use pornography; and even injustice to men themselves, who ostensibly pay the price of becoming emotionally numb from defining their sexualities via the images on the screen. Unlike the work of Andrea Dworkin, whose style and ideology heavily informs Jensen’s own (he dedicates this book to her), Getting Off addresses itself to men; it’s about manhood as much as it is about pornography. It’s as much about Jensen as it is about justice in the world that we all live in. But a book like that can’t stand on passion alone; it requires an extraordinary amount of honesty. And honesty about sex is the hardest kind in the world to come by. We’re taught from day one to lie about it to ourselves and others, and when we take it out for a good, close look, one slip is enough to tear you to shreds.

It’s this failure of honesty that lies at the heart of Getting Off’s failure to be the radical treatise that Jensen intends it to be. Nothing about Getting Off deserves to be called radical. It’s just old wine poured into a not-so-new bottle.

Jensen starts immediately with some sleight-of-hand regarding pornography. In explaining where he wants to go with the book, he says very specifically that he's going to focus on a textual analysis of the content of mass-produced heterosexual pornography. In short, the main product of good old Porn Valley. In itself, that seems like a fair strategy. It wouldn't be illegitimate for a literary critic to write a book focusing on post-war hard-boiled fiction instead of writing about every subgenre of mystery fiction from The Murders in the Rue Morgue to Carl Hiassen's latest. But we would expect such an author to draw conclusions about the style of Jim Thompson vs. Raymond Chandler — not about Arthur Conan Doyle's place in Victorian culture. The conclusions that Jensen draws from his narrow survey, in contrast, are sweeping in nature about how sexually explicit imagery affects our views of ourselves and others. Jensen's conclusions are not a critique about the mentality of Porn Valley, or of the specific kinds of porn that Porn Valley specializes in, but are an assault on porn as a genre. Porn isn't a good thing made bad by greedy and stupid people. It's just rotten to the core.

Thirty years ago, Jensen might have been able to get away with that. Both the production and the audience for porn were more homogenized before every American home was equipped first with a VCR and then with a PC linked up to the Internet. More importantly, the conversation about genders and sexualities was much more homogenized. In those days, there were men and there were women; there were gays and there were straights. But some remarkable things have happened in the last twenty years or so; sexual politics has become radicalized in a way that Jensen and his ideological allies couldn't have imagined back then, and seem unable to appreciate even now when they're staring those radical notions straight in the face. We're now faced with the notion that gender isn't just x and y, but z or xy or yz *x or any number of other combinations. The notion of orientation as binary and immutable is considered by many of us not only as antiquated but repressive. Sex workers now demand the right to call themselves feminist without calling themselves victims of their work. Queer and feminist activists now look at power play of all kinds as a part their sexuality that enhances, rather than opposes, their radical politics. And women actively create and critique porn, not just for men, but for themselves.

Many of these explorations in gender were made possible in part by the increased ease of viewing and making porn. In Getting Off, Jensen looks at a very narrow slice of pornography -- heterosexual, mainstream, mostly gonzo -- from which he cherrypicks the crudest examples that he can find, and then he tries to pretend that he's told the whole story. Corporate porn might be the elephant in the room, but it's not the whole story, not by half. As porn has become more acceptable, the voices and forms that are available have also become more diverse. Writing about corporate gonzo porn gives us little basis for insight into magazines like On Our Backs or its descendants; slash fiction (written largely by heterosexual women); sex blogs; alt-porn sites like ThatStrangeGirl (now defunct, but certainly influential) and I Shot Myself; or independent, sex-positive porn producers like Maria Beatty or Audacia Ray. You can praise or damn any of these subgenres as you will, but the fact remains that if you're going to do so, you have to look at them for what they are, not what you expect them to be based on what you've seen in a Slutbus or Seymour Butts production.

By using this thin sliver of pornography to talk about the whole, Robert Jensen has eliminated alternative genders and sexualities entirely. He doesn’t have to wonder what it means to have a transgendered man like Buck Angel making a good living billing himself as a “man with a pussy.” Dykes who make porn for other women, like the Cyber-Dyke network, are not even acknowledged. There is not even a whisper of the thousands of web pages and videos and magazines that focus on women dominating men, or cock-and-ball torture, or any other of a million practices. These sexualities do not even exist in Robert Jensen’s cosmology; he has written them out of existence as neatly as a respectable family who resolutely doesn’t speak the name of the cousin living as a “confirmed bachelor.” But all of these identities and practices come with legal and social consequences. To simply discard so many lives in a book that claims to honestly explore the nature of desire in our society is not only intellectually dishonest, but hateful.

There's also the fact that the textual analysis that Jensen says that he's going to do is like walking a tightrope while balancing a troop of crank-crazed monkeys on your back, even when your intellectual integrity is impeccable. Our vocabulary for deconstructing erotic art is extremely limited. As a culture, we are not any more comfortable with the idea of fantasy than we are with sex. Most artistic and literary analysis is done assuming that the work is morally prescriptive, like an Aesop's tale that can be summed up with a moral at the end. But when we venture into sex, we walk into a world of twisty contradictions and fantasy. The literal interpretations of most criticism doesn't work with porn. Sexuality is a grey, pliable area of our psyches, and to understand it, we have to be willing to accept the idea that things are attractive in fantasy that we don't want to happen in real life. Yes, as Jensen says, pornography is a mirror; but what it reflects is very ambiguous, and it tricks the eye easily. It's so taboo to speak of our fantasy lives that we can't really make authoritative statements about what other people see when they look at a given piece of pornography; often, it's hard enough to speak about what we're feeling, even if we're speaking only in a tiny whisper that no one else will hear. That's why I think that pornography is an opportunity, not a threat; if we accept the challenge to develop that critical vocabulary necessary to talk about fantasy and its place in our lives, even the crap can help us build that whisper into a clear, articulate voice about our sexualities.

Getting Off is emblematic of something else that I find disturbing about feminist anti-porn writing: passage after passage describes explicitly and luridly the scenes from gonzo porn films that Jensen finds most disturbing. Not once does he flinch from describing in detail the performers' sexual organs, orifices, sounds, actions, and facial expressions. And he does it repeatedly, to drive home to us the allegedly oppressive nature of these scenes, to make us realize as he does, that these films represent the desire of men to hurt women for their own pleasure. He is willing to show us that pain in excruciating detail, again and again and again throughout two hundred pages. He does, in fact, seem to take a perverse glee in describing these scenes for us and telling us how very, very bad they are.

Robert Jensen's passion is reserved for visualizing women's sexual pain. Never once does he turn that passion the other direction to look at the possibilities for women's sexual pleasure. There is not, in the end, so much difference between Jensen and the most misogynist, exploitative porn director; neither can imagine the sexual role of men as being anything other than to fuck, nor can they imagine women's roles as being anything other than to be fucked. And that's why, regardless of my doubts about mainstream porn, I can never, never imagine aligning myself with Jensen and his ilk. Because at the heart of his arguments, I see the same misogynist bullshit that I want to excise from pornography.

He does not, of course, ever say that we should just cloister ourselves and live lives of sexual abstinence. But when he does try to give solutions to the nightmare world that he depicts, Robert Jensen’s words lose their fire. His description of a positive sexuality is vague and bloodless, and speaks little of sex as a physical act but in semi-mystical terms about light and mystery and touch. It’s bland and dull, but even worse, it gives little in the way of practical advice. In the 90’s, I came away from reading sex-positive writers like Carol Queen and Susie Bright with sophisticated ways of thinking about safer sex techniques, talking honestly about limits, and what consent was and wasn’t. All that I get from Jensen is an admonition that we should try to make sex be more about light, and less about heat. (And god help me, I’m still not sure what that means.)

But that’s a relatively harmless aspect of the road that Jensen wants to take us down. Like a good puritan, he wants us to have more guilt.

From the first page, Getting Off is steeped in guilt and shame. One of the worst things about reading it is the overwrought, melodramatic tenor of the personal narratives, deeply reminiscent of Christian confessionals. It feels often like he’s drowning in his own need for forgiveness for being part of the patriarchy.

But toward the end of the book, he tries to make the personal political:

[S]hame tends to keep us locked in dysfunctional behavior, while guilt can be a step toward accountability for past actions and change in the future. If we reject shaming men about their use, misuse, or abuse of women, we need not reject the positive use of guilt, which can be a productive part of a process by which one comes to see that an action was morally unacceptable and by which one can rectify, to the degree possible, injuries done to others and begin the process of ensuring the bad action is not repeated.

Jensen differentiates between "shame" and "guilt" by saying that whereas shame is the sense that one's self is bad, that there is some inherent defect that makes one bad, guilt is the stirrings of conscience, the feeling that one has done a bad thing. This distinction is shaky, at best, given their use in everyday life; one can feel shame for an individual act just as well as on a broader, existential level. But Jensen's definitions become even blurrier in the context of his own book, which casts sexuality in such consistently ugly and shameful terms. Never does Jensen imply that the narrative can be written the other way, that women can fuck as well as be fucked, or that you can even do both at once. Patriarchy damns us to play out that one story, where men batter at women with their lust. In such a world, the lives of most men make their moral senses towards women so stunted that they might as well suffer from a congenital defect.

Jensen advocates repudiating "shame" (by his definition), but thinks that guilt should be encouraged in men to make them aware that they are committing wrong acts in using pornography or patronizing prostitutes, strippers, or other forms of sex work. Guilt, Jensen claims, will make men take responsibility for their attitudes towards women.

This is Jensen's worst idea in a litany of bad ideas.

Guilt is more than uncomfortable. It is crippling, self-indulgent, and when you’re talking about sex, often fatal, for both men and women. It is not just an intellectual dead end that Jensen proposes here: he is loading a gun and pointing it at those whom he claims to be defending. At women.

One of the things that keeps misogyny a thriving monster in our society is sexual shame and guilt. Violence against women and gays comes not from people who are comfortable being open about their desires, but by those who feel that their desires are somehow wrong. People have a limited capacity for accusing themselves. There are only so many times that a man will look at women and feel guilty about his lust before those thoughts whip around like a serpent devouring its tail. Then, the problem isn’t him. It’s that bitch in the short skirt, the whore who’s tempting him and who deserves whatever she gets. And then, we know the rest of the story. We’ve heard it too many times to forget. November 19 was the Transgender Day of Remembrance, and December 17 will be the 5th Annual International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers precisely because we know how the story of people driven by sexual self-hatred turned inside-out ends.

There is a sad joke in calling Robert Jensen “radical” in any sense of the word. He has nothing to give us but the same bitter fruit we were fed by hateful priests and timid parents.

 

 

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Well done and done well, Chris.

You pretty much covered it all about Jensen and his guilt-tripping masked as "gender politics.

I went ahead and posted a semi-"review" of Jensen's book over at my blog:

http://ajkenn-rgclub.com/SDChronBlog2dot3/2007/11/27/getting-off-on-getting-off-my-personal-review-of-bob-jensens-latest-guilt-trip/ 

 

Anthony

Chris, this is perfect.

Chris, this is perfect. *applause* I've been going back and forth on whether I should bother to read this book. On the one hand, I do agree (to an extent anyway) with the "know your enemies" thing. That's why I made a point to read Pornified and Female Chauvinist Pigs. But I wonder just how much head-desking I can or should take.

Sex Work

I welcome this kind of criticism of the sex trade. As an on-again-off-again sex worker myself I'm pretty conflicted about my own role in perpetuating this "pleasure men get from women's pain."

It's all a bit predictable, isn't it?

The anti-porn folk argue that the pro-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just acting as patsies, giving feminist cover to the patriarchal horrorshow whose perpetrators couldn't care less about those high-minded principles, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

The pro-porn folk argue that the anti-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just reiterating musty old anti-sex attitudes that were previously used to keep women enslaved, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

Someone more motivated than I should make one of those bingo charts.

One correction:

Dec. 17 is the 5th annual day to end violence against sex workers, not 17th annual.

Oy, vey.

That's what happens when I try to write these things late at night. Thanks for the correction.

well done

I really cannot stand Robert Jensen, for a list of reasons as long as my arm.  I loved this review, thank you for writing it. 

Aw, shucks.

I really cannot stand Robert Jensen, for a list of reasons as long as my arm. I loved this review, thank you for writing it.
 
That makes it worth it, then, Ren. You do remarkable stuff, and I'm honored that you liked this so much. There really is so much more to say about this book, unfortunately, and I'm afraid I didn't get it all in. I'm a little dismayed though, at how much credibility sites like Feministe and Alternet have been giving Jensen, although Feministing has an interesting review by Courtney Martin, which, while I don't wholly agree with, I can at least respect it. 

Quoting grendelkhan:The

Quoting grendelkhan:

The anti-porn folk argue that the pro-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just acting as patsies, giving feminist cover to the patriarchal horrorshow whose perpetrators couldn't care less about those high-minded principles, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

The pro-porn folk argue that the anti-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just reiterating musty old anti-sex attitudes that were previously used to keep women enslaved, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

Someone more motivated than I should make one of those bingo charts.

Sorry, friend, but you seem to have it all wrong.

None of us on the "pro-porn" side has ever even hinted that we are the "true vangard of liberation"; not even that those who support Jensen's view are neccessarily "anti-feminist".

What we DO say is that Jensen, in his attempt to reduce all male sexual desire and intent to its worst common demominator and offer his brand of "feminism" as the cure all for the impacts of "masculinity", is doing more to hurt legitimate progressive causes than any of the porn he supposedly criticizes.

You have your perogative to a "pox on both your houses" belief...but do try to catch some accuracy first.

Anthony

What an excellent review!

What an excellent review! (I'll have to link to it over on BPPA if somebody else hasn't already.) It really hits the nail on the head about exactly what's wrong with Jensen's line of argument. Its also something that I've argued about porn for a long time now – porn is a genre or even an artistic medium. Condemning all porn across the board is like condemning all westerns or all musicals or even all movies because you don't happen to like a popular subset of them. In fact, it smacks more than a bit of religious sects that condemn visual art as a whole as "sensual" or "idolatry". Some thoughts on particular points you've made –

"It’s not immediately obvious, but Robert Jensen and I have a lot in common. We both grew up as scrawny, physically inept boys with no aptitude for athletics. We were the kind of boys who were by default identified as “faggots” by our peers and, at least in my case, sometimes by teachers. On the playground and the streets, our status as “sensitive” boys made us easy targets for insults and physical abuse."

I've so been there! And yet, I strongly reject the whole "sensitive politically correct guy" role that writers like Jensen, John Stoltenberg, and Hugo Schwyzer are trying to shove down our throat. At best, it divests you of your personal power and makes you into a doormat and totally ineffective in the world. At worst, it turns you into a passive-aggressive asshole that serves as nothing more than an annoyance and dead weight on the very people you're trying to ally with.

"Corporate porn might be the elephant in the room, but it's not the whole story, not by half. As porn has become more acceptable, the voices and forms that are available have also become more diverse. Writing about corporate gonzo porn gives us little basis for insight into magazines like On Our Backs or its descendants; slash fiction (written largely by heterosexual women); sex blogs; alt-porn sites like ThatStrangeGirl (now defunct, but certainly influential) and I Shot Myself; or independent, sex-positive porn producers like Maria Beatty or Audacia Ray. You can praise or damn any of these subgenres as you will, but the fact remains that if you're going to do so, you have to look at them for what they are, not what you expect them to be based on what you've seen in a Slutbus or Seymour Butts production."

This is a point well taken and one I agree with, and yet at the same time, I think that positing "queer", or "pansexual", or "feminist" porn as the sole examples "good porn" leaves the implication that everything else is unreservedly monolithic and bad. I don't think this does the porn world justice at all. To my mind, the grey area between I Shot Myself and Bang Bus is huge. Porn, even "mainstream porn" is extremely diverse and full of both positive and negative messages about sexuality, often in the same package. (Kind of like most people, huh?) Where does one put alt porn that's still very much part of the commercial porn world, like Eon McKai or Joanna Angel's work? What about the extreme, but nonetheless very sex-positive gonzo videos of Belladonna? Or non-degrading high-production glamour porn like Viv Thomas' work? I don't think this stuff should be written off just because its too close to the "mainstream". (In fact, it seems to me like the "mainstream" vs "non-mainstream" porn dichotomy has simply become a rehash of the tired old "porn vs erotica" warhorse radical feminists occasionally still trot out.)

More broadly, to imply that porn that's made for straight men who are into conventionally attractive women as somehow inherently reactionary or beyond redemption is to largely write off the idea of transforming porn. Like it or not, men are still the majority of the porn audience, and demographically, the majority are largely heterosexual. That's who's buying the most porn, so its inevitable that that's who the majority of porn is going to be produced for. Writing off the idea of positive porn for this audience is myopic.

"I'm a little dismayed though, at how much credibility sites like Feministe and Alternet have been giving Jensen, although Feministing has an interesting review by Courtney Martin, which, while I don't wholly agree with, I can at least respect it."

I was really disappointed by that review – it was basically in agreement with most of Jensen's points, even if Martin thought the "elimination of masculinity" idea went to far. Most of the feminist "big blogs" – Feministe, Feministing, Pandagon, and Alternet – have been quite positive (even gushing) in their reviews. Feministing surprised me, since I thought it leaned more-or-less sex-positive. Similarly, the majority of mainstream feminist writers were highly uncritical of Melissa Farley's anti-prostitution PR campaign a few months back and quite a few came out for a Swedish-style "bust the johns" criminalization. I guess feminism is going through a puritanical phase again, like it did during the late 70s through the 1980s – hopefully this too will pass.

I'm glad you liked the

I'm glad you liked the review, Blue. I've enjoyed your work for a long time.

This is a point well taken and one I agree with, and yet at the same time, I think that positing "queer", or "pansexual", or "feminist" porn as the sole examples "good porn" leaves the implication that everything else is unreservedly monolithic and bad. I don't think this does the porn world justice at all....
More broadly, to imply that porn that's made for straight men who are into conventionally attractive women as somehow inherently reactionary or beyond redemption is to largely write off the idea of transforming porn. Like it or not, men are still the majority of the porn audience, and demographically, the majority are largely heterosexual. That's who's buying the most porn, so its inevitable that that's who the majority of porn is going to be produced for. Writing off the idea of positive porn for this audience is myopic. 

I wasn't trying to leave the impression that queer/feminist/etc porn = good and mainstream heterosexual porn = bad. My main purpose in writing that was, in fact, to point out the huge gray areas that do exist between not only the different subgenres of porn, but the diverse ranges of people who make and watch it. For over 150 pages, Jensen harps on this one sliver of the porn market and builds his argument that porn as a whole is corrupt based on the vision he sees there. I chose the examples I did specifically because they contrasted most starkly with Jensen's narrative in which porn is by definition about men dominating women.  I was trying to portray the diversity that Jensen ignores in as concise a manner as possible and point out the innate dishonesty in pretending that the entire genre can be critiqued through the lens of such a tiny, tiny sample.

And yes, there's good stuff even in the mainstream. I myself love Belladonna, and particularly hold up The Fashionistas as an example of what really good porn could be. What's particularly appealing about Belladonna is that she has an enthusiasm that's absolutely contagious. She genuinely loves ass, and even though I'm not big on it myself, I can get off on her charisma and enthusiasm. She's very distinct from the porn stars who seem to be phoning it in.

What an excellent review! – addendum

Another point I forgot to respond to: "Jensen advocates repudiating "shame" (by his definition), but thinks that guilt should be encouraged in men to make them aware that they are committing wrong acts in using pornography or patronizing prostitutes, strippers, or other forms of sex work. Guilt, Jensen claims, will make men take responsibility for their attitudes towards women. This is Jensen's worst idea in a litany of bad ideas."

I really like that you emphasize the corrosive and counter-productive effects of guilt, because there's a big part of the political left that seems to be hooked into the idea that more guilt and self-denial is what is needed to tackle all manner of social problems. I think its this "hairshirt" streak of the left that goes a long way towards marginalizing progressive ideas.

I think this gets to the root of where Jensen is coming from, too – the fact that he's all about guilt is pretty apparent in his writings on race and on capitalism, as well. Most notably, he made a big to-do last year about his decision to join a church, in spite of his professed atheism. I don't think its any coincidence that the church he joined is a Calvinist one. Similarly, Hugo Schwyzer is also a socially conservative Christian (albeit, an Episcopalian), and John Stoltenberg holds a Masters of Divinity from Union Theological Seminary. This religious streak among male radical feminists really calls into question the idea that they're coming from an perspective that's fundamentally different from anti-porn activists from the religious right.

 

RJ and Church

That Jensen joined a church doesn't surprise me in the least. One of the things that I kept on thinking while reading the book was how much he reminded me of certain religious figures who manage to be arrogant and self-righteous about how humbled they are before the might of God. You wouldn't think it would be possible to be arrogantly humble, but it's quite common. Similarly, Jensen spends a great deal of time confessing his own sins, telling us about how he's engaged in "rape-like" behaviors, flaunts his anguish about the misogyny of himself and other men, but in the end comes off as singularly self-righteous, the more so for all his self-condemnation.

Anti-sex?

You can't expect pro-sex feminists to accept hostility to women. Pro-sex doesn't mean pro-degradation. It doesn't mean pro-exploitation. Pro-sex doesn't mean you have to like Joe Francis, Seymour Butts, or the BangBus. I believe that it will take two things to answer Robert Jensen: 1) First, make sure actors on dirty movies want to work there. Yes, I know, the argument that pornographers kidnap women off the street and serially rape them to make movies has long and not very good history. Let's dispel it now. We have laws to make sure nobody under eighteen works in porn, and the industry can live with those laws; I suggest we find a way to make sure they all want to work there. The same thing goes for health and safety issues. 2) Make the issue about controlling what we think. Taking a position in opposition to pornography doesn't have to mean wanting to control what and how other people think, and what emotions they experience. But taking the positions Jensen does definitely does mean wanting to control other people's (other men's) thoughts and emotions. Ultimately, Jensen's arguments come from a perspective that blends the therapeutic with the political, that not only wants to prevent us from harming one another, the traditional role of government, but wants to make us happy and good. If you want a strong answer to Jensen, an argument based on freedom of thought probably works better than anything else.

Re: Anti-sex?

I agree that pro-sex doesn't mean pro-exploitation. The part on pro-sex not meaning pro-degradation deserves some qualification, because what constiutes "degradation" can be pretty subjective. There are a lot of people who are all-too-willing to read consensual BDSM or rough sex (or any number of other sexual acts) as "degrading", even if the receiving party desires the "degrading" act in question.

I think that point 1 is a very important one – there needs to be ways to better insure that everything done in the production of porn is done consensually and that realistic standards of health and safety are met. The details of how exactly to implement this in a global industry where most of the models and actors are in it on a short term basis is the more difficult question. (I also think no matter what you do, there's always going to be an element that claims that there's no way anybody in their right mind could freely choose to do that.)

And point 2 is also an important one, espcially because the feminist branch of the anti-porn movement plays such a shifty game in this regard, claiming to be against censorship, yet supporting legislation that most certainly amounts to such, such as the Dworkin/MacKinnon Anti-Pornography Ordinance or the recent propose British anti-"extreme porn" legislation. An essay by Jensen that should get more publicity "Feminism and Free Expression: Silence and Voice" in the anthology "Freeing the First Amendment" in which he explicitly does come out for removing First Amendment protection from pornography and "hate speech" (which Jensen conflates). You are absolutely right to point out that Jensen blends the theraputic and the political, with the potential for some very harmful outcomes to sexuality, culture, and civil liberties.

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