Quoting grendelkhan:

The anti-porn folk argue that the pro-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just acting as patsies, giving feminist cover to the patriarchal horrorshow whose perpetrators couldn't care less about those high-minded principles, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

The pro-porn folk argue that the anti-porn folk aren't really feminist, because they're just reiterating musty old anti-sex attitudes that were previously used to keep women enslaved, and that they're the true vanguard of liberation.

Someone more motivated than I should make one of those bingo charts.

Sorry, friend, but you seem to have it all wrong.

None of us on the "pro-porn" side has ever even hinted that we are the "true vangard of liberation"; not even that those who support Jensen's view are neccessarily "anti-feminist".

What we DO say is that Jensen, in his attempt to reduce all male sexual desire and intent to its worst common demominator and offer his brand of "feminism" as the cure all for the impacts of "masculinity", is doing more to hurt legitimate progressive causes than any of the porn he supposedly criticizes.

You have your perogative to a "pox on both your houses" belief...but do try to catch some accuracy first.

Anthony