Sex In The Public Square - gay rights - Comments

"Compassionate condemnation"

Elizabeth — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:20:57 -0700

While I was with family in Canada I had a chance to read a conservative Christian publication (the name of which is escaping me right now) and it drew an interesting distinction between what I'd call compassionate condemnation and hatred. The author of the article was arguing that real Christians can do as the aphorism says and "love the sinner but hate the sin." The author believed that a real Christian would love his gay son, or brother, or neighbor, and would work hard at showing him love not by accepting him but by trying to draw him back to the Church through openness and "forgiveness" while never letting go of the fact that the behavior of same sex sexual activity is sinful. The author was careful to point out how different this is from the hateful actions or words of those like the Rev. Simons quoted above. Yet I compassionate condemnation is still condemnation, and whether loving in its motivation or not still results in the same rejection of those who would accept their full sexuality.

Oh you so don't want

JanieBelle — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:52:33 -0700

me to start pontificating on how the little butthead will probably get a slap on the wrist.

What I mean to say is that such ignorant and antiquated behavior is the stinking, rotting, left over corpse of dark age religiosity, and this bus driver needs a good twenty first century kick right in his tuckus.

And that's all I have to say about that! (Until tomorrow, at which time my mouth will probably kick back into overdrive of its own accord.)

Don't even get me started on the mental issues a man must have that causes him to be turned off by two girls kissing.

Bus driver will be disciplined

Elizabeth — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:14:00 -0700

A follow up : the driver will be disciplined, but the disciplinary action has not yet been made public (and may well not be made public). The disciplinary action is not in response to the homophobia or discrimination against lesbians, but rather because of a violation of a policy that minors and "vulnerable" people should not be put off busses.

Punk that poll

RC — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:53:15 -0700

Did you see that poll in the sidebar of the KATU story? 53% (so far) say the driver should not be disciplined. Even on the face of it he violated policy by kicking them off the way he did! I'm pretty surprised this happened in Portland.